New to forum from Boulder USA Past Owner of 74 & 76 Gordini

henry (claude) a écrit:

Michel, pourrais tu ...

Oui Claude ... je le peux ...

We will send to my house in Florida please.

I believe I have the correct power window switches.

What are your thoughts on the motors?

Do you have any old ones?

I can use them if they work or use them for a model of what could work?

Michel thank you as my friend!!

Amicale

Steve

MichBiz a écrit:

Where must i send , to your french friend or directly to you ?

Do you need window switches ? but unfortunatly I don't find the good version

I tested motors, they are corrects

You just have to replace the gears that I will put with it, I had kept the ones I had bought at the club for my Green and that I did not use because I mounted manual windows!

I'm so happy!!!

Thank you Michel, I can't wait to install the power windows.

Thank you all your help!!

Amicale

Steve

MichBiz a écrit:

I tested motors, they are corrects  

You just have to replace the gears that I will put with it, I had kept the ones I had bought at the club for my Green and that I did not use because I mounted manual windows!

I could send in the begenning of next week.

For wiring, you will need 2 multi-strand wires (flexible wire) +12V ((section of 1.5) each starting from a fuse (15 A) and going to each of the switches that will also receive a ground wire. Switches will have to go 2 wires to the motors through the two doors.
To limit the power in the switches, you can add 2 relays per side. Perhaps to do with an automotive electrician.

Thank you very much that would be great!

Is it possible to draw a diagram of the wiring for me? I am sorry to ask I feel dumb.

If I recall the switch of our cars has 4 connectors?

I copied a picture from a Maserati Biturbo which uses the same switch style and pins.

The reason I ask is I am unclear how the switch and rest of the wiring works.

This will really help me.

Thank you again!!

Steve

Maserati Switch




Our original switch

MichBiz a écrit:

I could send in the begenning of next week.

For wiring, you will need 2 multi-strand wires +12V section of 1.5 each starting from a fuse 15 A and going to each of the switches that will also receive a ground wire. Switches will have to go 2 wires to the motors through the two doors.


To limit the power in the switches, you can add 2 relays per side. Perhaps to do with an automotive electrician.

Yes, I will show the wiring tomorrow, using the MR 185 scheme.

I don't know this Maserati switch but warning, it must cross +12V and ground to reverse the direction of the engine.

Swith with 4 pins is correct.

Hello Steve,

Nearly 7 years ago
Bientôt 7 ans de passés

Here we can follow the autopsy of a Maserati switch.
Ici on peut suivre l'autoptie d'un switch Maserati.

https://amicale-r15-r17.forumpro.fr/t7655-ph1-power-electric-window-switch

and here the relay basic diagram.
et ici le schéma de principe.

and the wiring diagram by Henry(Claude)
et le schéma de cablage par Henry(Claude)

https://amicale-r15-r17.forumpro.fr/t7368-etude-de-commande-leve-vitre-par-relais

Like origine without protective relay , you must have this wiring in blue :

Schema with relays in progress ...

See under !

My dear friends,

Thank you very very much!

I feel stupid asking this question, maybe it is the covid I am fighting.

I need help understanding how to wire the switch. The 4 pins go to what on the diagrams.

I have attached the pictures.

First the factory switch.



Next the factoring wiring diagram



My apologies if seems very basic, I just do not want to make any errors.

Thank you again my friends.

I cannot do this with Amicale.  

Steve

MichBiz a écrit:

Schema with relays in progress ...

And the wiring

But I will test on my Yellow to late, I must buy relays and sockets.

[quote="1974Gordini"... maybe it is the covid ...
I need help understanding how to wire the switch. The 4 pins go to what on the diagrams ... [/quote]
No no no, a foot cut in covid

Do you have the MR 185 ?

The solution :



After, if the direction of the arrow is not correct regarding the window, it will be necessary to reverse the 2 "motor" wires.

command wires, 0,75 mm2 to 1 mm2
Power wires, 1,5 mm2.
And use different colours

Thank you very much. I am not sure where my MR185 is, its somewhere, hope not with the gears. lol

MichBiz a écrit:

[quote="1974Gordini"... maybe it is the covid ...
I need help understanding how to wire the switch. The 4 pins go to what on the diagrams ...

No no no, a foot cut in covid

Do you have the MR 185 ?

The solution :



After, if the direction of the arrow is not correct regarding the window, it will be necessary to reverse the 2 "motor" wires.

command wires, 0,75 mm2 to 1 mm2
Power wires, 1,5 mm2.
And use different colours [/quote]

Thank you, if I follow, using this double relay approach will move the load off the switch and most likely increase the life of the switch and efficiency of the motor.

Makes sense!

Steve

henry (claude) a écrit:

Je ne suis pas pour ce type de relais pour lequel il n'existe pas de support (socket).
Quand tu dois le remplacer tu es obligé de tout déconnecter. au risque de ne pas replacer les fils au bon emplacement.
Il faut des relais 5 broches (1 RT).

I am not for this type of relay for which there is no socket.
When you have to replace it you are forced to disconnect everything. at the risk of not putting the wires back in the right place.
5-pin relays are required.

Thank you all for this great information and help!!

Steve

Bonjour Amicale,

It has been a while since I have posted here. My apologies.

I have found myself on Facebook and did not mean to ignore my best friends.

I am getting my 75 ready for a Hilton Head International Concours d'Elegance in November 1-6

The US Renault Club was invited as a special mark.

Maybe some of my friends from France will come?

Here are some current pictures of my 75.

I hope all is well with all of you.

Amicale,

Steve

Hi Steve !
it will probably be to celebrate the 50th anniversary ?

I am not sure, but makes sense.

Very excited. It is about 550 Km

Would be a very long drive for the car and owner

MichBiz a écrit:

Hi Steve !
it will probably be to celebrate the 50th anniversary ?

1974Gordini a écrit:

I am not sure, but makes sense.

Very excited. It is about 550 Km

Would be a very long drive for the car and owner  

MichBiz a écrit:

Hi Steve !
it will probably be to celebrate the 50th anniversary ?

Where is the event?

https://www.hiltonhead.com/concours-d-elegance/


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Where is the event?[/quote]

Bonjour my friends,

I finally got this project done.

I installed this valve cover that Michel found for me.

Merci!

In my dreams it adds 25hp to the car.



I am enjoying my cars this summer!

Amicale,

Steve

1974Gordini a écrit:

... In my dreams it adds 25hp to the car.